S02.E08: Hi, I'm Philip - Page 2 - How To Get Away With Murder [V]

Catherine and Phillip conspiring was a twist, but I am mostly relieved that Ollie is alive and unhurt so he can have hot sex with Connor. Connor has got to stop blaming Annalise for consequences of his own actions.

Not just that - Annalise didn't ask Oliver to hack Philip. And Connor expressly told him not to. Ollie just got carried away and did it of his own accord. That's on Oliver, and on Connor for 1) dragging him into things and 2) not giving him enough information to reasonably understand some of the potential danger Ollie is in.

Someone please explain to me what/how Wes figured things out by looking at the painting? What was in that painting?

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So Catherine shot them for Philip? Because they are sleeping together, right?

Catherine gave Wes a painting. He thought it looked familiar. When he saw a screenshot of Philip, one of Catherine's painting was in the background. If Catherine didn't know Philip, why did he have one of her paintings?

Speaking of the Hapstall case, I'm sure others have said it but I still don't fully buy it was all Philip and I find Caleb's "I found it last week" story about the gun a little too coincidental. I think Caleb and Catherine wanted their parents dead, they found out about crazy, product of incest son Philip and got him to do it, because he was easy to manipulate. Or Philip found out about his family and reached out to them but either way, I don't think he all on his own decided to kill the parents if he did indeed kill them.

It was more than that with the painting IIRC, because I think the screencap showed the painting kinda crammed into a corner. If Philip had legit (and coincidentally) purchased it, that wouldn't be how he'd treat it. And for our benefits, having seen Catherine and Philip together, it shows us Philip probably doesn't love or particularly value her, or he'd treat the painting differently as well. So I think that would argue against him being her pawn, too, unless it's along the lines of winding him up and letting him loose, without needing him to care about her/them.

Also, pretty sure they aren't hooking up, because Catherine passed the virginity test a few eps back.

Thanks to everyone who posted Nate pics. Man is a TALL drink of water. I have to admit I don't understand the about face he did in this episode. I get the DA has made his life hell, that's fair. But he wanted nothing to do with Annalise two episodes ago. Agenda? Just a little strange...

I think it's easy to forget how isolating the past season and a half have been for Nate. The time (and emotional) commitment involved in caring for terminally ill family members tends to corrode a lot of acquaintanceships. He was on the outs at work (thanks to Anna) prior to being a suspect in Sam's murder, which doubtlessly made things even trickier for him at the station. I could totally see him being mostly on his own these days and just plain lonely.

The scenes in his apartment didn't show piles of cards, flowers, food and tupperware from concerned friends and neighbors (I'd bet the charges of assisted suicide/murder of his wife brought those to a screeching halt). So he turns to his mistress and one time confidante. I get that. Or he's playing her, which is also easy enough to get behind, but I can understand if he's just become so isolated and desperate and needs/wants her.

I give this show a lot of leeway when it comes to fantasy law, but there is no way that any judge would have allowed the DA to put a bug in a defense attorney's practice and potentially ruin privilege for every case Annalise has. A judge might have allowed a wire tap on Annalise's phone and definitely would have allowed one on the Hapstall's phone. But a general bug picking up everything? Bullshit.

Pretty sure she did that on her own/ without judicial sanction.

Also, it won't be a coincidence that it was in the pen. The files' provenance is clear. The pen would be a lot harder to prove.

I really don't understand how if their plan is to pin this on Philip, how do they expect to get away with hacking him? And if the investigation turns to Philip, they're very quickly going to find out that the police records regarding him are falsified. I don't get how they think things will work out in their favour.

I don't think they plan to pin this on Philip. I think they consider him an actual (and probable) suspect in the Hapstall murders, and if pressed (i.e. the siblings are taken to court) they would offer him as part of an alternate narrative of events. But either way, they don't need to prove it, just create reasonable doubt.

If Philip is more closely examined by TPTB and claims "foul" on Anna & co.'s parts, this too doesn't matter much, because he's now a very suspicious character and less likely to be believed. And all they've done is hack him, and it would need to be proven.

As to Nate's document editing - if he's smart, he changed it back once the detectives left. This wasn't something they needed in the system longer term, they just needed to forestall anyone acting on Philip's information at that point in time. Changing the info back will make it pretty damn hard to find in the system later. (searches by his name will yield no results, searches by schizophrenia will yield nothing similar to his name, so they're unlikely to notice the record that they looked at unless they examine it one by one. not gonna happen.) The assumption will be user error, and it would probably get left at that. I also don't think he logged in to the computer. You don't need to hack a system if you can hack its users. Keep in mind that this is a system he himself worked in and with until recently with precisely the users still using it. You know who goes for a cigarette or coffee without logging out, and how to quickly find the data you need once in the system. He inconspicuously walked in in plain clothes on his day off.

And the more secure a system is supposed to be, the more frequently they force users to change their passwords, and the equally less probable that anyone (certainly over 50) remembers them. Within two minutes of sitting at an average desk in that environment, you'll probably find the post-it with the current password on it.

Yes, yes, plot twists and shirtless men, but the most important revelation to me was that Connor thinks you can destroy a hard drive by hitting the keyboard and screen with a hammer.

It's a question of inertia. He doesn't need to have destroyed the drive, he just needs to have given Ollie enough of a push that he stops trying to think of what to save off his computer and instead will do what needs to be done.

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